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−	Y-DNA Haplogroup C-V20<ref name = "Scozzari2012">Scozzari R, Massaia A, D’Atanasio E, Myres NM, Perego UA, ''et al.'' (2012) Molecular Dissection of the Basal Clades in the Human Y Chromosome Phylogenetic Tree. ''PLoS ONE'' 7(11): e49170. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0049170</ref> '''Magog''' literally meaning "From [[Gog]]" in a similar pattern to the name [[Mitzraite Nation\|Mitzraim]].	+	Y-DNA Haplogroup C-V20<ref name = "Scozzari2012">Scozzari R, Massaia A, D’Atanasio E, Myres NM, Perego UA, ''et al.'' (2012) Molecular Dissection of the Basal Clades in the Human Y Chromosome Phylogenetic Tree. ''PLoS ONE'' 7(11): e49170. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0049170</ref> '''Magog''' literally meaning "From [[Gog]]" in a similar pattern to the name [[Mitzraite Nation\|Mitzraim]]. The nation that originally came from Georgia, a region between the Black and Caspian Seas south of the Caucasus Mountains.

	Arab writers referred to the Great Wall of China as the 'wall of al Magog' (Rabbi Aaron Marcus, Kesseth HaSofer, p. 112a) and this is reiterated in Papal sources noting that Magog may denote the Mongols, whose name they said came from Magogoli which they claimed was a corruption of Magog. Other ancient sources make identification of Magog as living to the north of the Black Sea (Yov'loth 9:8).		Arab writers referred to the Great Wall of China as the 'wall of al Magog' (Rabbi Aaron Marcus, Kesseth HaSofer, p. 112a) and this is reiterated in Papal sources noting that Magog may denote the Mongols, whose name they said came from Magogoli which they claimed was a corruption of Magog. Other ancient sources make identification of Magog as living to the north of the Black Sea (Yov'loth 9:8).

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−	'''Magog''' literally meaning "From [[Gog]]" in a similar pattern to the name [[Mitzraite Nation\|Mitzraim]].	+	Y-DNA Haplogroup C-V20<ref name = "Scozzari2012">Scozzari R, Massaia A, D’Atanasio E, Myres NM, Perego UA, ''et al.'' (2012) Molecular Dissection of the Basal Clades in the Human Y Chromosome Phylogenetic Tree. ''PLoS ONE'' 7(11): e49170. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0049170</ref> '''Magog''' literally meaning "From [[Gog]]" in a similar pattern to the name [[Mitzraite Nation\|Mitzraim]].

	Arab writers referred to the Great Wall of China as the 'wall of al Magog' (Rabbi Aaron Marcus, Kesseth HaSofer, p. 112a) and this is reiterated in Papal sources noting that Magog may denote the Mongols, whose name they said came from Magogoli which they claimed was a corruption of Magog. Other ancient sources make identification of Magog as living to the north of the Black Sea (Yov'loth 9:8).		Arab writers referred to the Great Wall of China as the 'wall of al Magog' (Rabbi Aaron Marcus, Kesseth HaSofer, p. 112a) and this is reiterated in Papal sources noting that Magog may denote the Mongols, whose name they said came from Magogoli which they claimed was a corruption of Magog. Other ancient sources make identification of Magog as living to the north of the Black Sea (Yov'loth 9:8).

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 Arab writers referred to the Great Wall of China as the 'wall of al Magog' (Rabbi Aaron Marcus, Kesseth HaSofer, p. 112a) and this is reiterated in Papal sources noting that Magog may denote the Mongols, whose name they said came from Magogoli which they claimed was a corruption of Magog. Other ancient sources make identification of Magog as living to the north of the Black Sea (Yov'loth 9:8).
-Some sources identify Magog with Germania (Targum Yonathan; Targum on 1 Chronicles 1:5; Pesikta Zutratha). Others identify them with the Goths (Yerushalmi, Megillah 1:9) the Heberite people who otherwise named themselves after their [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythian]] masters, in what is now southern Russia.
+Some sources identify Magog with Germania (Targum Yonathan; Targum on 1 Chronicles 1:5; Pesikta Zutratha). Others identify them with the Goths (Yerushalmi, Megillah 1:9) the Heberite people who otherwise named themselves after their [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythian]] masters, in what is now southern Russia. Hence some identified '''Magog''' with [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythia]] (Josephus; Yoma 10a, according to Rabbenu Chananel; Arukh s.v. Germamia). Ancient histories state that the [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythia]]ns came from Asia, driven by the Massagetae (cf. [[Meshekhite Nation|Meshekh]]), and settling near the Cimerians (Herodotus 4:11; see note on Genesis 10:2, '[[Gomerite Nation|Gomer]]'). Linguistically, the [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythia]]ns were related to the Iranians, and hence, to the Persians and the [[Madaiite Nation|Medes]]. It is therefore no surprise that Herodotus thought the Germanians to be a Persian tribe (Herodotus 1:125). Interestingly enough Angalo Saxon legends claim Gogmagog as an ancient ancestor. Gog Magog were traditionally locked behind copper and iron gates by Alexander the Great. Two Giant effigies of them are kept behind the gates of guildhall in London.
 (cf. Ezekiel 38:2)

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-'''Magog''' literally meaning "From [[Gog]]" in a similar pattern to the name [[Mitzraite Nation|Mitzraim]]. Most probably a Teutonic people, living to the north of the Holy Land (cf. Ezekiel 38:2). Some sources identify Magog with Germania (Targum Yonathan; Targum on 1 Chronicles 1:5; Pesikta Zutratha). Others identify them with the Goths (Yerushalmi, Megillah 1:9). These were a Teutonic people who migrated to [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythia]], in what is now southern Russia.
+'''Magog''' literally meaning "From [[Gog]]" in a similar pattern to the name [[Mitzraite Nation|Mitzraim]].
-It is therefore not contradictory when some sources identify '''Magog''' with [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythia]] (Josephus; Yoma 10a, according to Rabbenu Chananel; Arukh s.v. Germamia). Ancient histories state that the [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythia]]ns came from Asia, driven by the Massagetae (cf. [[Meshekhite Nation|Meshekh]]), and settling near the Cimerians (Herodotus 4:11; see note on Genesis 10:2, '[[Gomerite Nation|Gomer]]'). Linguistically, the [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythia]]ns were related to the Iranians, and hence, to the Persians and the [[Madaiite Nation|Medes]]. It is therefore no surprise that Herodotus thought the Germanians to be a Persian tribe (Herodotus 1:125). Interestingly enough Angalo Saxon legends claim Gogmagog as an ancient ancestor. Gog Magog were traditionally locked behind copper and iron gates by Alexander the Great. Two Giant effigies of them are kept behind the gates of guildhall in London.
+Arab writers referred to the Great Wall of China as the 'wall of al Magog' (Rabbi Aaron Marcus, Kesseth HaSofer, p. 112a) and this is reiterated in Papal sources noting that Magog may denote the Mongols, whose name they said came from Magogoli which they claimed was a corruption of Magog. Other ancient sources make identification of Magog as living to the north of the Black Sea (Yov'loth 9:8).
-Other ancient sources agree with the identification of Magog as living to the north of the Black Sea (Yov'loth 9:8).
+Some sources identify Magog with Germania (Targum Yonathan; Targum on 1 Chronicles 1:5; Pesikta Zutratha). Others identify them with the Goths (Yerushalmi, Megillah 1:9) the Heberite people who otherwise named themselves after their [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythian]] masters, in what is now southern Russia.
-Papal sources note that Magog may denote the Mongols, whose name they said came from Magogoli which they claimed was a corruption of Magog. Indeed, Arab writers referred to the Great Wall of China as the 'wall of al Magog' (Rabbi Aaron Marcus, Kesseth HaSofer, p. 112a).
+It is therefore not contradictory when some sources identify '''Magog''' with [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythia]] (Josephus; Yoma 10a, according to Rabbenu Chananel; Arukh s.v. Germamia). Ancient histories state that the [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythia]]ns came from Asia, driven by the Massagetae (cf. [[Meshekhite Nation|Meshekh]]), and settling near the Cimerians (Herodotus 4:11; see note on Genesis 10:2, '[[Gomerite Nation|Gomer]]'). Linguistically, the [[Ashkenazite Nation|Scythia]]ns were related to the Iranians, and hence, to the Persians and the [[Madaiite Nation|Medes]]. It is therefore no surprise that Herodotus thought the Germanians to be a Persian tribe (Herodotus 1:125). Interestingly enough Angalo Saxon legends claim Gogmagog as an ancient ancestor. Gog Magog were traditionally locked behind copper and iron gates by Alexander the Great. Two Giant effigies of them are kept behind the gates of guildhall in London.
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	Papal sources note that Magog may denote the Mongols, whose name they said came from Magogoli which they claimed was a corruption of Magog. Indeed, Arab writers referred to the Great Wall of China as the 'wall of al Magog' (Rabbi Aaron Marcus, Kesseth HaSofer, p. 112a).		Papal sources note that Magog may denote the Mongols, whose name they said came from Magogoli which they claimed was a corruption of Magog. Indeed, Arab writers referred to the Great Wall of China as the 'wall of al Magog' (Rabbi Aaron Marcus, Kesseth HaSofer, p. 112a).
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		+	:[[Gog]]
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−	Most probably a Teutonic people, living to the north of the Holy Land (cf. Ezekiel 38:2). Some sources identify Magog with Germania (Targum Yonathan; Targum on 1 Chronicles 1:5; Pesikta Zutratha). Others identify them with the Goths (Yerushalmi, Megillah 1:9). These were a Teutonic people who migrated to [[Ashkenazite Nation\|Scythia]], in what is now southern Russia.	+	'''Magog''' literally meaning "From [[Gog]]" in a similar pattern to the name [[Mitzraite Nation\|Mitzraim]]. Most probably a Teutonic people, living to the north of the Holy Land (cf. Ezekiel 38:2). Some sources identify Magog with Germania (Targum Yonathan; Targum on 1 Chronicles 1:5; Pesikta Zutratha). Others identify them with the Goths (Yerushalmi, Megillah 1:9). These were a Teutonic people who migrated to [[Ashkenazite Nation\|Scythia]], in what is now southern Russia.

	It is therefore not contradictory when some sources identify '''Magog''' with [[Ashkenazite Nation\|Scythia]] (Josephus; Yoma 10a, according to Rabbenu Chananel; Arukh s.v. Germamia). Ancient histories state that the [[Ashkenazite Nation\|Scythia]]ns came from Asia, driven by the Massagetae (cf. [[Meshekhite Nation\|Meshekh]]), and settling near the Cimerians (Herodotus 4:11; see note on Genesis 10:2, '[[Gomerite Nation\|Gomer]]'). Linguistically, the [[Ashkenazite Nation\|Scythia]]ns were related to the Iranians, and hence, to the Persians and the [[Madaiite Nation\|Medes]]. It is therefore no surprise that Herodotus thought the Germanians to be a Persian tribe (Herodotus 1:125). Interestingly enough Angalo Saxon legends claim Gogmagog as an ancient ancestor. Gog Magog were traditionally locked behind copper and iron gates by Alexander the Great. Two Giant effigies of them are kept behind the gates of guildhall in London.		It is therefore not contradictory when some sources identify '''Magog''' with [[Ashkenazite Nation\|Scythia]] (Josephus; Yoma 10a, according to Rabbenu Chananel; Arukh s.v. Germamia). Ancient histories state that the [[Ashkenazite Nation\|Scythia]]ns came from Asia, driven by the Massagetae (cf. [[Meshekhite Nation\|Meshekh]]), and settling near the Cimerians (Herodotus 4:11; see note on Genesis 10:2, '[[Gomerite Nation\|Gomer]]'). Linguistically, the [[Ashkenazite Nation\|Scythia]]ns were related to the Iranians, and hence, to the Persians and the [[Madaiite Nation\|Medes]]. It is therefore no surprise that Herodotus thought the Germanians to be a Persian tribe (Herodotus 1:125). Interestingly enough Angalo Saxon legends claim Gogmagog as an ancient ancestor. Gog Magog were traditionally locked behind copper and iron gates by Alexander the Great. Two Giant effigies of them are kept behind the gates of guildhall in London.