Bernard Duborg (1987) dates Pliny's source between 30 and 20 BCE and, accounting for the lapse of time required for the installation in Syria of a sect born in Israel/Judea, suggests the presence of a Nasoraean current around 50 BCE. Dubourg connects Pliny's ''Nazerini'' with early Christians.<ref>B. Dubourg, L'Invention de Jesus, Gallimard Paris 1987, II, p. 157.</ref> This identifies them as with the Jewish traditions about Rav Joshua ben Perachiya's student who turned to the worship of the Baetylus with the Elagabalites among whom he established the [[Mandaeans]] of Jordan and Iraq according to the Kuzari.