They recognized their common ground (5:82) with Ebionite-like Jewish Messianists (Notsari) but called themselves the Believers (2:62) and also welcomed Halakhic Jews as Those who Guide (Alazeena Haadu) and Noahites as Judeo-Baptists (Sabi). They called Apostates Judases.
Unlike Gentile Gnostics but in common with the Noahite Judeo-Baptists, they equated the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob with the Gnostic God the Father on High rather than with the Demiurge who they and the Judeo-Baptists equated with Satan.
They themselves rejected Messiah-Sonship and believed instead only in angel-sonship seeing Rebbe Yehoshuah Minzaret (whom they called Ieso) as actually a threefold Aeon (Rasul) called Mitra (Mitatrun) who only looked like a human but was not really a human being at all. They believed that the same Aeon had visited the planet many times before such as for example as [[Abraham's Visitors]]. The Aeon called Mahamadim (Ahmed) united within itself, Mahmad the Suffering Temple Word alongside Ieso the Guiding Spiritual Light.
