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An anonymous Bnei Noach wrote on a maillist a while back: "lashon hara is the one thing that will also keep us from having any community among B'nei Noach.  And we do need community.  In my mind I will elevate lashon hara to a position of evil somewhere near murder and robbery, because G-d will not help us if we refuse to speak with love, encouragement and kindness towards one another, within hearing, and beyond hearing."
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An anonymous Bnei Noach wrote on a maillist a while back: "''lashon hara'' is the one thing that will also keep us from having any community among B'nei Noach.  And we do need community.  In my mind I will elevate ''lashon hara'' to a position of evil somewhere near murder and robbery, because G-d will not help us if we refuse to speak with love, encouragement and kindness towards one another, within hearing, and beyond hearing."
  
Speaking gossip, slander, etc. is obviously damaging to the Bnei Noach community. But is it prohibited, and if so exactly how and in what manner is prohibited?  Below are a collection of thoughts on the subject.
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Speaking gossip, slander, etc. is obviously damaging to the Bnei Noach community. But is it prohibited? And if so exactly how and in what manner is prohibited?  Below are a collection of thoughts on the subject.  The list is ordered according to the [[The Seven Laws|seven laws]].
  
 
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'''Cursing the Name.''' The power of speech distinguishes humanity from all other species, and this distinction leads to the specific human prohibition not to use speech for cursing the Creator, because it shows ingratitude for his kindness. This commandment pairs with the previous one, showing that the Divine rulership and the Divine love go together at all times and places, no matter how great the difficulties may seem. Jews and non-Jews are commanded in the same verse in this respect, showing how in the Messianic times all of humankind will join together in voicing praise for the Creator. All other misuses of speech, such as gossip, obscenity and lies, are indicated in this commandment as something to avoid, just as prayer and words of Torah are desirable so that speech will become truly Divine.<ref>[http://www.rb.org.il/Fellowship%20Noahide/noahinstitute.htm Root and Branch]</ref>
 
'''Cursing the Name.''' The power of speech distinguishes humanity from all other species, and this distinction leads to the specific human prohibition not to use speech for cursing the Creator, because it shows ingratitude for his kindness. This commandment pairs with the previous one, showing that the Divine rulership and the Divine love go together at all times and places, no matter how great the difficulties may seem. Jews and non-Jews are commanded in the same verse in this respect, showing how in the Messianic times all of humankind will join together in voicing praise for the Creator. All other misuses of speech, such as gossip, obscenity and lies, are indicated in this commandment as something to avoid, just as prayer and words of Torah are desirable so that speech will become truly Divine.<ref>[http://www.rb.org.il/Fellowship%20Noahide/noahinstitute.htm Root and Branch]</ref>
  
==Rabbi Nissan Dubov (Lubavitch South London)==
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==Rabbi Michoel Drazin==
  
'''Justince.''' Noachides must ensure that they protect the rights of others, be they Jew, Gentile or Noachide. This protection comes from their acceptance of the law to establish courts of justice. A Noahcide should avoide insulting or damaging a person's reputation in public. Care should be taken not to repeat gossip which could be damaging to another. Concerns should always be taken up with the person concerned and never spoken about behind their back.<ref>[http://us.geocities.com/the_uk_ark/living-the-seven-laws/understanding/rights-of-others.html
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'''Not to commit murder.''' This page may also seem to be a no-brainer. But wait! The prohibition against murder also covers Lashon Horah, Evil speech. Gossip remains a major form of evil speech, as eventually (remember the game Telephone? Someone whispers something in someone’s ear, and by the time it gets around the circle it’s all out of context and all out of proportion), it ruins lives. Should a person commit suicide because of rumors or gossip, their blood is on your hands. Talebearing is another thing. Sometimes the words of our mouths arouse jealousy, and this can cause anger, enough so that one can desire to kill. Again, this blood is on your hands. Hence the Sages said Silence is better for the wise, and how much more so for fools, as it is said, Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise. (Pesachim 99a). Mishnah 17. Simeon, his son, used to say: all my days I grew up among the Sages, and I have found nothing better for a person than silence. Study is not the most important thing, but deed; whoever indulges in too many words brings about sin.(Pirke Avos 1:17) Mishnah 13. R. Akiba said: Jesting and light-headedness lead a man on to lewdness; Tradition is a fence to the Torah; tithes [form] a fence to wealth, vows a fence to self-restraint; a fence to wisdom is silence. (Pirke Avos 3:13)<ref>[http://jdstone.org/truth/files/noach_ov.html The Hollow Inheritance]</ref>
The Uk Ark]</ref>
 
  
==Yosef Ben Shlomo Hakohen Hazon  (Noahide Nations)==
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==Rabbi Moshe Bogomilsky==
  
'''Stealing.''' The Sefer Ha-Chinuch is a classical work on the Torah's 613 mitzvos (precepts), and regarding the Torah's prohibition, "You shall not covet" (Deuteronomy 5:18), the author writes:"It is in force everywhere, at every time, for both man and woman. All humankind too is duty-bound by it, since it is a branch of the precept about robbery, which is one of the seven mitzvos that all in the world were commanded to keep."The Sefer Ha-Chinuch goes on to explain that the "Seven Mitzvos of the Children of Noah" are actually seven "categories" of mitzvos, and they therefore contain many details. There are some forms of negative speech that can cause people a monetary loss. For example, a person may gossip about a co-worker at work, and when the gossip spreads, the co-worker is fired from his job or loses an opportunity to be promoted to a better-paying position. One can argue that the person who gossiped has committed an act which deprived a person of his income - a form of stealing. Just like coveting is prohibited because it can lead to theft, so too, negative speech that can lead to a loss of money for someone is also prohibited, as this too is a form of theft." One would therefore need to consult with a halachic scholar as to whether speech that could lead to monetary damage is actually prohibited to Noahides as a form of theft.
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'''Murder.''' "One who sheds the blood of man in the man, his blood shall be shed." (Gen. 9:6)<br>
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QUESTION: "In the man" seems repetitious and unnecessary.<br>
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ANSWER: The Talmud (Bava Metziah 58b) states that if one publicly embarrasses another, it is as if he spills his blood, because the one who is embarrassed blushes, and blood rushes to his face (as if trying to leave his body). Then his face pales as the blood rushes to other parts of the body, and it takes on the ashen, pallid appearance of a corpse. The difference between actual murder and embarrassment is that in murder, blood actually leaves the body, whereas in embarrassment, the blood changes location within the body.<ref>[http://www.chabad.org/parshah/article.asp?AID=320743 Chabad.org]</ref>
  
'''Voluntary.''' Noahides, however, can voluntarily take on most of the 613 mitzvos of the Torah! (Maimonides mentions this in "The Laws of Kings" 10:10.) One of the mitzvos which they can't take on is the prohibition against doing the 39 categories of creative work on the Sabbath. It is actually forbidden for Noahides to refrain from all forms of creative work on the Sabbath, as this particular, strict discipline is meant for the People of Israel, who have a special role to fulfill as "a kingdom of kohanim (ministers) and a holy nation" (Exodus 19:6). But Noahides can certainly choose to voluntarily take on all the mitzvos of the Torah which govern our relationships with other human beings, including the Torah's prohibition against "loshon hara" - derogatory and/or harmful speech. In fact, Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch, the noted 19th sage and biblical commentator, indicates that it is the Divine desire that all human beings choose to take on these ethical mitzvos.
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==Rabbi Bernard Fox==
  
Rabbi Hirsch finds a source for this idea in the following messianic prophecy which describes how the peoples will walk in "His paths":"And many people shall go and say: Come, let us go up to the Mountain of Hashem, to the House of the God of Jacob, and He shall teach us of His ways, and we shall walk in His paths. For from Zion shall go forth Torah, and the Word of Hashem from Jerusalem." (Isaiah 2:3)It is written, "of His ways," and it is also written, "in His paths." Rabbi Hirsch points out that the Hebrew phrase for "of His ways" implies "from some of His ways." (Those familiar with the grammar of Biblical Hebrew will understand this better.) The phrase "of His ways" is referring to special mitzvos that enhance human sanctity and moral behavior - those mitzvos which also enhance Israel's role as a kingdom of ministers and a holy nation. Of these special mitzvos, the peoples of the earth will choose to undertake to fulfill "some" of them, but not "all" of them. This is because a number of these special mitzvos were given in order to enhance the priestly role of the People of Israel. However, the people also say that "we will walk in His paths." According to the structure of Biblical Hebrew, explains Rabbi Hirsch, this means "all of His paths." The Hebrew word for "paths" in this verse is "or-chosov." Rabbi Hirsch cites other various sources which indicate that this Hebrew word usually refers to social behavior - the way a human being acts with his or her neighbor. With regard to those mitzvos of the Torah that govern our social behavior - mitzvos of love and justice - the peoples will choose to fulfill "all" of them, states Rabbi Hirsch. And he adds:"The teachings of right and social justice, of righteousness and love, shall one day become part of the life of all humankind, without exception. Therefore Isaiah states, 'We will walk in His paths.' " (This teaching can be found in Rabbi Hirsch's in " The Collected Writings ", Vol. IV, pages 63 and 228.)
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'''Murder.''' Maimonides in his code of Halacha – the Mishne Torah – in Hilchot Dey’ot explains that lashon hara is one type of prohibited speech.  It is not the only form or speech about others that is prohibited. There are three types of speech that are prohibited. The first is rechilut.  This is gossip.  It need not be negative. It is merely the act of discussing someone’s affairs with a third party. Lashon hara is a special case of rechilut. It is negative gossip – speaking in a disparaging manner about someone. However, there is one interesting qualification that must be met.  Lashon hara involves imparting disparaging information that is true.  Lashon hara does not include making up outright lies. Spreading disparaging, false rumors is motzi shem ra. In short, gossip is rechilut; lashon hara is speaking about someone in a disparaging manner – albeit that the statement is true. Spreading false, disparaging rumors is motzi shem ra.<ref>Rabbaynu Moshe ben Maimon (Rambam / Maimonides) Mishne Torah, Hilchot Dey’ot 7:1-2.</ref> We can now identify the mitzvah violated by lashon hara.  According to Maimonides no mitzvah specifically prohibits lashon hara. Instead, the Torah prohibits rechilut and this includes the special case of lashon hara.
  
The Seven Precepts of the Children of Noah can therefore be viewed as the "starting point" of a Noahide's spiritual life. And a Noahide can continue to grow by studying and fulfilling all those mitzvos of the Torah that make one a more ethical and loving person. There is another halachic opinion which is related to our discussion. Rabbi Nissim Gaon, a renowned 11th century sage, writes in his famous introduction to the Talmud that human beings in every generation have an obligation to perform any precept which is suggested by "reason" and "the understanding of the heart." If the prohibition against "loshon hara" can be understood by reason and/or the understanding of the heart, then it may be that Gentiles are already obligated in these laws, according to Rabbi Nissim Gaon. This is a matter that needs to be decided by authorities on Torah law.
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Nachmanides disagrees with Maimonides.  He insists that there is a specific mitzvah prohibiting lashon hara. It is derived from our parasha (Behalotecha) and the Torah’s latter admonition – in Sefer Devarim – to guard ourselves from tzara’at and to remember this experience of Miryam. Nachmanides argues that our Sages regarded lashon hara as a serious sin. They went so far as to compare lashon hara to the spilling of blood.<ref>Mesechet Erechim 15b.</ref>  It is incomprehensible that there is no specific command prohibiting the behavior!  He adds that the Torah prescribes a very serious punishment to lashon hara – tzara’at. We would expect that this serious consequence would be in response to the violation of a specific commandment.  Based on these considerations, Nachmanides argues that lashon hara is prohibited by a specific commandment.  It is either a negative commandment communicated in the admonition to avoid tzara’at or a positive command contained in the admonition to remember the experience of Miryam.<ref>Rabbaynu Moshe ben Nachman (Ramban / Nachmanides), Commentary on Sefer Devarim 24:9.</ref>
  
To summarize: According to the above sources, it may be that Noahides are obligated in part or all of the Torah's laws of ethical speech, and one should consult a rabbi who is familiar with these laws for a decision. And it is highly commendable for Noahides to voluntarily fulfill all the mitzvos of the Torah regarding ethical and loving behavior, including the mitzvos of ethical speech. As Rabbi Hirsch teaches, they will certainly fulfill these mitzvos in the messianic age. For the Torah contains teachings and precepts which enable all the Children of Noah to become ethical, caring, and loving people and thereby fulfill their potential as human beings created in the Divine image. May we therefore merit to experience the age when, "Torah will go forth from Zion and the word of Hashem from Jerusalem.
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In summary, Maimonides and Nachmanides agree that lashon hara is prohibited.  However, according to Maimonides, it is included in the general mitzvah prohibiting gossip.  Nachmanides insists that there is a separate mitzvah that specifically prohibits lashon hara. More...<ref>[http://www.mesora.org/RabbiFox/BeHalotecha64.htm Mesora.org]</ref>
  
==Rabbi Michoel Drazin==
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==Rabbi Nissan Dubov (Lubavitch South London)==
  
'''Not to commit murder.''' This page may also seem to be a no-brainer. But wait! The prohibition against murder also covers Lashon Horah, Evil speech. Gossip remains a major form of evil speech, as eventually (remember the game Telephone? Someone whispers something in someone’s ear, and by the time it gets around the circle it’s all out of context and all out of proportion), it ruins lives. Should a person commit suicide because of rumors or gossip, their blood is on your hands. Talebearing is another thing. Sometimes the words of our mouths arouse jealousy, and this can cause anger, enough so that one can desire to kill. Again, this blood is on your hands. Hence the Sages said Silence is better for the wise, and how much more so for fools, as it is said, Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise. (Pesachim 99a). Mishnah 17. Simeon, his son, used to say: all my days I grew up among the Sages, and I have found nothing better for a person than silence. Study is not the most important thing, but deed; whoever indulges in too many words brings about sin.(Pirke Avos 1:17) Mishnah 13. R. Akiba said: Jesting and light-headedness lead a man on to lewdness; Tradition is a fence to the Torah; tithes [form] a fence to wealth, vows a fence to self-restraint; a fence to wisdom is silence. (Pirke Avos 3:13)
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'''Justice.''' Noachides must ensure that they protect the rights of others, be they Jew, Gentile or Noachide. This protection comes from their acceptance of the law to establish courts of justice. A Noahcide should avoide insulting or damaging a person's reputation in public. Care should be taken not to repeat gossip which could be damaging to another. Concerns should always be taken up with the person concerned and never spoken about behind their back.<ref>[http://us.geocities.com/the_uk_ark/living-the-seven-laws/understanding/rights-of-others.html The Uk Ark]</ref>
  
==Rabbi Moshe Bogomilsky==
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==Yosef Ben Shlomo Hakohen Hazon==
  
'''Murder.''' "One who sheds the blood of man in the man, his blood shall be shed." (Gen. 9:6)<br>
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'''Stealing.''' The Sefer Ha-Chinuch is a classical work on the Torah's 613 mitzvos (precepts), and regarding the Torah's prohibition, "You shall not covet" (Deuteronomy 5:18), the author writes:"It is in force everywhere, at every time, for both man and woman. All humankind too is duty-bound by it, since it is a branch of the precept about robbery, which is one of the seven mitzvos that all in the world were commanded to keep."The Sefer Ha-Chinuch goes on to explain that the "Seven Mitzvos of the Children of Noah" are actually seven "categories" of mitzvos, and they therefore contain many details. There are some forms of negative speech that can cause people a monetary loss. For example, a person may gossip about a co-worker at work, and when the gossip spreads, the co-worker is fired from his job or loses an opportunity to be promoted to a better-paying position. One can argue that the person who gossiped has committed an act which deprived a person of his income - a form of stealing. Just like coveting is prohibited because it can lead to theft, so too, negative speech that can lead to a loss of money for someone is also prohibited, as this too is a form of theft." One would therefore need to consult with a halachic scholar as to whether speech that could lead to monetary damage is actually prohibited to Noahides as a form of theft.
QUESTION: "In the man" seems repetitious and unnecessary.<br>
 
ANSWER: The Talmud (Bava Metziah 58b) states that if one publicly embarrasses another, it is as if he spills his blood, because the one who is embarrassed blushes, and blood rushes to his face (as if trying to leave his body). Then his face pales as the blood rushes to other parts of the body, and it takes on the ashen, pallid appearance of a corpse. The difference between actual murder and embarrassment is that in murder, blood actually leaves the body, whereas in embarrassment, the blood changes location within the body.
 
  
==Rabbi Joseph Lichter==
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'''Voluntary.''' Noahides, however, can voluntarily take on most of the 613 mitzvos of the Torah! (Maimonides mentions this in "The Laws of Kings" 10:10.) One of the mitzvos which they can't take on is the prohibition against doing the 39 categories of creative work on the Sabbath. It is actually forbidden for Noahides to refrain from all forms of creative work on the Sabbath, as this particular, strict discipline is meant for the People of Israel, who have a special role to fulfill as "a kingdom of kohanim (ministers) and a holy nation" (Exodus 19:6). But Noahides can certainly choose to voluntarily take on all the mitzvos of the Torah which govern our relationships with other human beings, including the Torah's prohibition against "loshon hara" - derogatory and/or harmful speech. In fact, Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch, the noted 19th sage and biblical commentator, indicates that it is the Divine desire that all human beings choose to take on these ethical mitzvos.
  
'''Murder.''' Maimonides in his code of Halacha – the Mishne Torah – in Hilchot Dey’ot explains that lashon hara is one type of prohibited speech. It is not the only form or speech about others that is prohibited. There are three types of speech that are prohibited. The first is rechilut. This is gossip. It need not be negative. It is merely the act of discussing someone’s affairs with a third party. Lashon hara is a special case of rechilut. It is negative gossip – speaking in a disparaging manner about someone. However, there is one interesting qualification that must be met. Lashon hara involves imparting disparaging information that is true. Lashon hara does not include making up outright lies. Spreading disparaging, false rumors is motzi shem ra. In short, gossip is rechilut; lashon hara is speaking about someone in a disparaging manner – albeit that the statement is true. Spreading false, disparaging rumors is motzi shem ra.<ref>Rabbaynu Moshe ben Maimon (Rambam / Maimonides) Mishne Torah, Hilchot Dey’ot 7:1-2.</ref> We can now identify the mitzvah violated by lashon hara. According to Maimonides no mitzvah specifically prohibits lashon hara. Instead, the Torah prohibits rechilut and this includes the special case of lashon hara.
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Rabbi Hirsch finds a source for this idea in the following messianic prophecy which describes how the peoples will walk in "His paths":"And many people shall go and say: Come, let us go up to the Mountain of Hashem, to the House of the God of Jacob, and He shall teach us of His ways, and we shall walk in His paths. For from Zion shall go forth Torah, and the Word of Hashem from Jerusalem." (Isaiah 2:3)It is written, "of His ways," and it is also written, "in His paths." Rabbi Hirsch points out that the Hebrew phrase for "of His ways" implies "from some of His ways." (Those familiar with the grammar of Biblical Hebrew will understand this better.) The phrase "of His ways" is referring to special mitzvos that enhance human sanctity and moral behavior - those mitzvos which also enhance Israel's role as a kingdom of ministers and a holy nation. Of these special mitzvos, the peoples of the earth will choose to undertake to fulfill "some" of them, but not "all" of them. This is because a number of these special mitzvos were given in order to enhance the priestly role of the People of Israel. However, the people also say that "we will walk in His paths." According to the structure of Biblical Hebrew, explains Rabbi Hirsch, this means "all of His paths." The Hebrew word for "paths" in this verse is "or-chosov." Rabbi Hirsch cites other various sources which indicate that this Hebrew word usually refers to social behavior - the way a human being acts with his or her neighbor. With regard to those mitzvos of the Torah that govern our social behavior - mitzvos of love and justice - the peoples will choose to fulfill "all" of them, states Rabbi Hirsch. And he adds:"The teachings of right and social justice, of righteousness and love, shall one day become part of the life of all humankind, without exception. Therefore Isaiah states, 'We will walk in His paths.' " (This teaching can be found in Rabbi Hirsch's in " The Collected Writings ", Vol. IV, pages 63 and 228.)
  
Nachmanides disagrees with Maimonides. He insists that there is a specific mitzvah prohibiting lashon hara. It is derived from our parasha and the Torah’s latter admonition – in Sefer Devarim – to guard ourselves from tzara’at and to remember this experience of Miryam. Nachmanides argues that our Sages regarded lashon hara as a serious sin. They went so far as to compare lashon hara to the spilling of blood.<ref>Mesechet Erechim 15b.</ref> It is incomprehensible that there is no specific command prohibiting the behavior! He adds that the Torah prescribes a very serious punishment to lashon hara – tzara’at. We would expect that this serious consequence would be in response to the violation of a specific commandment. Based on these considerations, Nachmanides argues that lashon hara is prohibited by a specific commandment. It is either a negative commandment communicated in the admonition to avoid tzara’at or a positive command contained in the admonition to remember the experience of Miryam.<ref>Rabbaynu Moshe ben Nachman (Ramban / Nachmanides), Commentary on Sefer Devarim 24:9.</ref>
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The Seven Precepts of the Children of Noah can therefore be viewed as the "starting point" of a Noahide's spiritual life. And a Noahide can continue to grow by studying and fulfilling all those mitzvos of the Torah that make one a more ethical and loving person. There is another halachic opinion which is related to our discussion. Rabbi Nissim Gaon, a renowned 11th century sage, writes in his famous introduction to the Talmud that human beings in every generation have an obligation to perform any precept which is suggested by "reason" and "the understanding of the heart." If the prohibition against "loshon hara" can be understood by reason and/or the understanding of the heart, then it may be that Gentiles are already obligated in these laws, according to Rabbi Nissim Gaon. This is a matter that needs to be decided by authorities on Torah law.
  
In summary, Maimonides and Nachmanides agree that lashon hara is prohibited. However, according to Maimonides, it is included in the general mitzvah prohibiting gossip. Nachmanides insists that there is a separate mitzvah thatspecifically prohibits lashon hara.
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To summarize: According to the above sources, it may be that Noahides are obligated in part or all of the Torah's laws of ethical speech, and one should consult a rabbi who is familiar with these laws for a decision. And it is highly commendable for Noahides to voluntarily fulfill all the mitzvos of the Torah regarding ethical and loving behavior, including the mitzvos of ethical speech. As Rabbi Hirsch teaches, they will certainly fulfill these mitzvos in the messianic age. For the Torah contains teachings and precepts which enable all the Children of Noah to become ethical, caring, and loving people and thereby fulfill their potential as human beings created in the Divine image. May we therefore merit to experience the age when, "Torah will go forth from Zion and the word of Hashem from Jerusalem.<ref>[http://www.noahidenations.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=171&Itemid=38 Noahide Nations]</ref>
  
Let us take a moment to understand the basis of this argument. Each position seems to have its merit. It seems that Nachmanides’ argument is rather compelling. Lashon hara is a serious sin. Does it not make sense that it deserves its own mitzvah? How might Maimonides respond to this issue? However Maimonides’ position is also reasonable. Maimonides maintains that lashon hara is a form of gossip and is included in the general prohibition against gossip. What is so objectionable to including the prohibition against lashon hara in the more general mitzvahprohibiting rechilut?
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==Rabbi Yeshayahu HaKohen Hollander (Jerusalem Court for Bnei Noah)==
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'''Voluntary.''' In English there are so many terms for talking badly about another person (Gossip, slander, libel, defamation, vilification). Slander is writing or publishing Libel in print, but English does not differentiate between defamation by true statements and by false statements.   In Jewish law we differentiate between: 1. gossip = telling people about what other people said about them [or theirs] and is called ''rechilus'', 2. true tale-bearing [telling bad but true things about people] is called ''loshon hara'', and 3. false tale-bearing: [telling untrue bad things about people] is called ''motzei shem ra''.
  
It is clear that the Nachmanides’basic premise is that lashon hara must be assessed in view of the damage and hurt that it causes. Our Sages compare the lashon hara to the spilling of blood. Clearly, they are evaluating lashon hara from the perspective of the damage it causes. From this perspective it does not make sense to compare lashon hara to innocent gossip. Gossip is inappropriate. But from the perspective of damage it is a very different activity than lashon hara. Unlike gossip, lashon hara is an explicit attack against a person’s reputation. It is not appropriate to include the damaging behavior of lashon hara inthe general mitzvah prohibiting senseless gossip.
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For Jews this these offences are considered serious. In many circles there are public lessons given about these offences.  In general ''rechilus'', ''loshon hara'', ''motzei shem ra'', are absolutely forbidden, except in a few limited cases.  Jewish law details the rules and circumstances in which one may tell about bad acts of someone, for instance: a witness must testify in court. Warning about suspicions is allowed in certain instances. The difference between telling and warning is simple: When you warn you say "Look out, on the basis of these facts, I warn you that this person may do harm! ". Telling is saying: "This person has done X". The statement "This person intends to do the bad X" is ascribing evil to someone, and is Halachically very risky. In most cases it is prohibited. The warning must be something like: "I have personal knowledge [or: see for yourself] that this person is saying [or doing] what people say [or do] when they have bad intentions, as so-and-so have said [or done] in previous situations and then followed the saying with bad actions."
  
Therefore, Nachmanides argues that lashon hara deserves its own mitzvah and should not be included in the general prohibition against rechilut. So, why does Maimonides include lashon hara within the mitzvah prohibiting rechilut? It is important to note that Maimonides includes the laws of rechilut in the Hilchot Dayot section of the Mishne Torah. What is the subject matter of Hilchot Dayot? In this section of the Mishne Torah, Maimonides outlines the perimeters of general emotional and physical health. The inclusion of the mitzvah prohibiting rechilut in this section implies that engaging in gossip represents a personally destructive behavior. The person that engages in gossip is undermining his or her own emotional well being. From this perspective it is appropriate to include lashon hara within the mitzvah prohibiting all forms of gossip. All of
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The prohibition is based on Leviticus 19:16, in the context of regulations about relations between people [verses16-18]. In this chapter, the phrase "the congregation of the children of Israel" is used several times. In Exodus 16 and 17 this phrase is used when people were complaining. In Exodus 35 in connection with the bringing of contributions for the Tabernacle; in Leviticus 16 – with respect to atonement; in Numbers 1 with regard to the physical arrangement of the Israelite camp in the wilderness; in chapter 8 – the separation of the Levite tribe from the rest of the children of Israel; in chapters 13 and 14 in connection with the sin of the spies, and those who followed them; in chapter 15 with respect to atonement [according to halachic tradition – for Idolatry]. From the context:  verse 3 "and keep my Sabbaths" it seems clear that this is not meant to apply to non-Jews. So it does not appear to be directed to non-Jews. This prohibiton is NOT in the list of sixty-six commandments of Bnei Noah compiled by the contemporary Rabbi A. Lichtenstein.
inappropriate. But from the perspective of damage it is a very different activity than lashon hara. Unlike gossip, lashon hara is an explicit attack against a person’s reputation. It is not appropriate to include the damaging behavior of lashon hara in the general mitzvah prohibiting senseless gossip.
 
  
Therefore, Nachmanides argues that lashon hara deserves its own mitzvah and should not be included in the general prohibition against rechilut. So, why does Maimonides include lashon hara within the mitzvah prohibiting rechilut? It is important to note that Maimonides includes the laws of rechilut in the Hilchot Dayot section of the Mishne Torah. What is the subject matter of Hilchot Dayot? In this section of the Mishne Torah, Maimonides outlines the perimeters of general emotional and physical health. The inclusion of the mitzvah prohibiting rechilut in this section implies that engaging in gossip represents a personally destructive behavior. The person that engages in gossip is undermining his or her own emotional well being. From this perspective it is appropriate to include lashon hara within the mitzvah prohibiting all forms of gossip. All of
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The fact that verses 16, 17 and 18 uses the words "among thy people", "thy neighbor", "thy brother", "children of thy people" it is clear that Noahides are not subject to these commandments.
these forms of gossip cause harm to one’s own emotional well being.
 
  
We can now understand the dispute between Nachmanides and Maimonides. According to Nachmanides, the essential aspect of lashon hara is the harm caused to others. Therefore, lashon hara cannot be included in the general mitzvah prohibiting gossip. Maimonides maintains that essential component of lashon hara is the harm
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However, we see that the Torah views the various types of ill-talk about members of one's community as having a bad result to the community. Thus it seems it would be wise that Noahide communities adapt them – for the benefit of the community.
caused to oneself. From this perspective it is appropriate to include lashon hara in the general mitzvah prohibiting rechilut. However, it must be noted that Maimonides does acknowledge that lashon hara is a special case of rechilut. This acknowledgement implies that the harm caused by lashon hara to one’s personal well being is somewhat different from the harm associated with general rechilut. However, it is not clear from Maimonides’comments exactly wherein the difference lies. If we pursue this issue we may discover that Maimonides’ position provides an essential insight into the behavior of lashon hara. We notice that despite the widespread desire to curtail our engagement in lashon hara, this determination does not easily translate into an actual change in behavior. Why is this behavior so difficult to modify and correct? Part of the answer may lie in the traditional method used to address the problem. We notice that the most common method for addressing the problem of lashon hara is to read more about the gravity of the sin. Books about lashon hara are Judaic best sellers. But it seems that in the long-run learning more about the specific  laws of lashon hara and the gravity of the sin has limited impact on the behavior. In fact this outcome is not surprising. If a person wants to change ones eating habits does one seriously think that reading diet books will foster this change? One who wishes to be less of a couch potato will probably not meet this challenge simply by reading about exercise. This reading may provide temporary inspiration. But in the long run this approach does not usually lead to permanent  results. Instead one must identify and address the root source of the behavior. In the case of eating one must discover why one overeats. What is the attraction? What function is food serving in the person’s life? It makes sense that the same is required to effectively approach to problem of lashon hara. What causes us to engage in this behavior? Our Sages provide an amazing insight into this  issue.They tell us the when we depreciate others we are really reflecting upon our own inadequacies.<ref>Mesechet Kedushin 70b.</ref> In other words, we speak about others in order to deflect our attention – or the attention of others – from our own insecurities, failing and faults. Let us consider this assertion more closely. We can all acknowledge that one of the greatest challenges we face in achieving personal growth is the need to critically evaluate our own attitudes and behaviors. The more deep-set and behavior or attitude, the  more difficult it is to recognize and acknowledge. But this does not mean that we are not in some sense aware or our personal faults. We are frustrated with these imperfections and yet, we are unwilling to completely acknowledge them and confront them. How do we deal with this frustration? Our Sages are suggesting that we self-medicate. We escape our frustration by transferring our attention to the shortcoming of others. Rather than focus on ourselves, we change the focus of our attention to the other person. We evaluate that person and dissect the person’s behaviors and attitudes with the precision that we should direct towards the more painful and difficult task of introspection.
 
 
 
This is the reason the Maimonides regards rechilut as a behavior that undermines our own personal health. We are diverting our attention from ourselves and attaching it to another person. Lashon hara is an extreme manifestation of this mechanism. Gossip is a simple diversion. In speaking lashon hara we are actually aware at some level – of a personal deficiency. But rather than acknowledging our personal shortcoming, we  focus our attention on this failing as manifested in someone else. In this manner, we actually engage in denial of our own faults. This insight of our Sages suggests an approach to dealing with the urge to speak and participate in lashon hara and rechilut. The urge is apparently, motivated by the presence of an awareness of some personal failing. But this awareness is evokes an unhealthy response. We transfer our focus from ourselves to the other person. If this is correct, then  each time we feel the urge to participate in lashon hara or rechilut, we need to respond with a question. What is bothering me about myself? What and I trying to avoid considering? Rather than allowing our attention to be diverted, we need to sharpen our focus on ourselves and allow for a moment of introspection. This is not an easy solution to apply. But it seems to respond to the fundamental motivations behind lashon hara and rechilut. Perhaps, if we keep our Sages insight in mind, we will be better able to overcome the urge to participate in lashon hara and rechilut.
 
  
 
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An anonymous Bnei Noach wrote on a maillist a while back: "lashon hara is the one thing that will also keep us from having any community among B'nei Noach. And we do need community. In my mind I will elevate lashon hara to a position of evil somewhere near murder and robbery, because G-d will not help us if we refuse to speak with love, encouragement and kindness towards one another, within hearing, and beyond hearing."

Speaking gossip, slander, etc. is obviously damaging to the Bnei Noach community. But is it prohibited? And if so exactly how and in what manner is prohibited? Below are a collection of thoughts on the subject. The list is ordered according to the seven laws.

Rabbi Yirmeyahu Bindman

Cursing the Name. The power of speech distinguishes humanity from all other species, and this distinction leads to the specific human prohibition not to use speech for cursing the Creator, because it shows ingratitude for his kindness. This commandment pairs with the previous one, showing that the Divine rulership and the Divine love go together at all times and places, no matter how great the difficulties may seem. Jews and non-Jews are commanded in the same verse in this respect, showing how in the Messianic times all of humankind will join together in voicing praise for the Creator. All other misuses of speech, such as gossip, obscenity and lies, are indicated in this commandment as something to avoid, just as prayer and words of Torah are desirable so that speech will become truly Divine.[1]

Rabbi Michoel Drazin

Not to commit murder. This page may also seem to be a no-brainer. But wait! The prohibition against murder also covers Lashon Horah, Evil speech. Gossip remains a major form of evil speech, as eventually (remember the game Telephone? Someone whispers something in someone’s ear, and by the time it gets around the circle it’s all out of context and all out of proportion), it ruins lives. Should a person commit suicide because of rumors or gossip, their blood is on your hands. Talebearing is another thing. Sometimes the words of our mouths arouse jealousy, and this can cause anger, enough so that one can desire to kill. Again, this blood is on your hands. Hence the Sages said Silence is better for the wise, and how much more so for fools, as it is said, Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise. (Pesachim 99a). Mishnah 17. Simeon, his son, used to say: all my days I grew up among the Sages, and I have found nothing better for a person than silence. Study is not the most important thing, but deed; whoever indulges in too many words brings about sin.(Pirke Avos 1:17) Mishnah 13. R. Akiba said: Jesting and light-headedness lead a man on to lewdness; Tradition is a fence to the Torah; tithes [form] a fence to wealth, vows a fence to self-restraint; a fence to wisdom is silence. (Pirke Avos 3:13)[2]

Rabbi Moshe Bogomilsky

Murder. "One who sheds the blood of man in the man, his blood shall be shed." (Gen. 9:6)
QUESTION: "In the man" seems repetitious and unnecessary.
ANSWER: The Talmud (Bava Metziah 58b) states that if one publicly embarrasses another, it is as if he spills his blood, because the one who is embarrassed blushes, and blood rushes to his face (as if trying to leave his body). Then his face pales as the blood rushes to other parts of the body, and it takes on the ashen, pallid appearance of a corpse. The difference between actual murder and embarrassment is that in murder, blood actually leaves the body, whereas in embarrassment, the blood changes location within the body.[3]

Rabbi Bernard Fox

Murder. Maimonides in his code of Halacha – the Mishne Torah – in Hilchot Dey’ot explains that lashon hara is one type of prohibited speech. It is not the only form or speech about others that is prohibited. There are three types of speech that are prohibited. The first is rechilut. This is gossip. It need not be negative. It is merely the act of discussing someone’s affairs with a third party. Lashon hara is a special case of rechilut. It is negative gossip – speaking in a disparaging manner about someone. However, there is one interesting qualification that must be met. Lashon hara involves imparting disparaging information that is true. Lashon hara does not include making up outright lies. Spreading disparaging, false rumors is motzi shem ra. In short, gossip is rechilut; lashon hara is speaking about someone in a disparaging manner – albeit that the statement is true. Spreading false, disparaging rumors is motzi shem ra.[4] We can now identify the mitzvah violated by lashon hara. According to Maimonides no mitzvah specifically prohibits lashon hara. Instead, the Torah prohibits rechilut and this includes the special case of lashon hara.

Nachmanides disagrees with Maimonides. He insists that there is a specific mitzvah prohibiting lashon hara. It is derived from our parasha (Behalotecha) and the Torah’s latter admonition – in Sefer Devarim – to guard ourselves from tzara’at and to remember this experience of Miryam. Nachmanides argues that our Sages regarded lashon hara as a serious sin. They went so far as to compare lashon hara to the spilling of blood.[5] It is incomprehensible that there is no specific command prohibiting the behavior! He adds that the Torah prescribes a very serious punishment to lashon hara – tzara’at. We would expect that this serious consequence would be in response to the violation of a specific commandment. Based on these considerations, Nachmanides argues that lashon hara is prohibited by a specific commandment. It is either a negative commandment communicated in the admonition to avoid tzara’at or a positive command contained in the admonition to remember the experience of Miryam.[6]

In summary, Maimonides and Nachmanides agree that lashon hara is prohibited. However, according to Maimonides, it is included in the general mitzvah prohibiting gossip. Nachmanides insists that there is a separate mitzvah that specifically prohibits lashon hara. More...[7]

Rabbi Nissan Dubov (Lubavitch South London)

Justice. Noachides must ensure that they protect the rights of others, be they Jew, Gentile or Noachide. This protection comes from their acceptance of the law to establish courts of justice. A Noahcide should avoide insulting or damaging a person's reputation in public. Care should be taken not to repeat gossip which could be damaging to another. Concerns should always be taken up with the person concerned and never spoken about behind their back.[8]

Yosef Ben Shlomo Hakohen Hazon

Stealing. The Sefer Ha-Chinuch is a classical work on the Torah's 613 mitzvos (precepts), and regarding the Torah's prohibition, "You shall not covet" (Deuteronomy 5:18), the author writes:"It is in force everywhere, at every time, for both man and woman. All humankind too is duty-bound by it, since it is a branch of the precept about robbery, which is one of the seven mitzvos that all in the world were commanded to keep."The Sefer Ha-Chinuch goes on to explain that the "Seven Mitzvos of the Children of Noah" are actually seven "categories" of mitzvos, and they therefore contain many details. There are some forms of negative speech that can cause people a monetary loss. For example, a person may gossip about a co-worker at work, and when the gossip spreads, the co-worker is fired from his job or loses an opportunity to be promoted to a better-paying position. One can argue that the person who gossiped has committed an act which deprived a person of his income - a form of stealing. Just like coveting is prohibited because it can lead to theft, so too, negative speech that can lead to a loss of money for someone is also prohibited, as this too is a form of theft." One would therefore need to consult with a halachic scholar as to whether speech that could lead to monetary damage is actually prohibited to Noahides as a form of theft.

Voluntary. Noahides, however, can voluntarily take on most of the 613 mitzvos of the Torah! (Maimonides mentions this in "The Laws of Kings" 10:10.) One of the mitzvos which they can't take on is the prohibition against doing the 39 categories of creative work on the Sabbath. It is actually forbidden for Noahides to refrain from all forms of creative work on the Sabbath, as this particular, strict discipline is meant for the People of Israel, who have a special role to fulfill as "a kingdom of kohanim (ministers) and a holy nation" (Exodus 19:6). But Noahides can certainly choose to voluntarily take on all the mitzvos of the Torah which govern our relationships with other human beings, including the Torah's prohibition against "loshon hara" - derogatory and/or harmful speech. In fact, Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch, the noted 19th sage and biblical commentator, indicates that it is the Divine desire that all human beings choose to take on these ethical mitzvos.

Rabbi Hirsch finds a source for this idea in the following messianic prophecy which describes how the peoples will walk in "His paths":"And many people shall go and say: Come, let us go up to the Mountain of Hashem, to the House of the God of Jacob, and He shall teach us of His ways, and we shall walk in His paths. For from Zion shall go forth Torah, and the Word of Hashem from Jerusalem." (Isaiah 2:3)It is written, "of His ways," and it is also written, "in His paths." Rabbi Hirsch points out that the Hebrew phrase for "of His ways" implies "from some of His ways." (Those familiar with the grammar of Biblical Hebrew will understand this better.) The phrase "of His ways" is referring to special mitzvos that enhance human sanctity and moral behavior - those mitzvos which also enhance Israel's role as a kingdom of ministers and a holy nation. Of these special mitzvos, the peoples of the earth will choose to undertake to fulfill "some" of them, but not "all" of them. This is because a number of these special mitzvos were given in order to enhance the priestly role of the People of Israel. However, the people also say that "we will walk in His paths." According to the structure of Biblical Hebrew, explains Rabbi Hirsch, this means "all of His paths." The Hebrew word for "paths" in this verse is "or-chosov." Rabbi Hirsch cites other various sources which indicate that this Hebrew word usually refers to social behavior - the way a human being acts with his or her neighbor. With regard to those mitzvos of the Torah that govern our social behavior - mitzvos of love and justice - the peoples will choose to fulfill "all" of them, states Rabbi Hirsch. And he adds:"The teachings of right and social justice, of righteousness and love, shall one day become part of the life of all humankind, without exception. Therefore Isaiah states, 'We will walk in His paths.' " (This teaching can be found in Rabbi Hirsch's in " The Collected Writings ", Vol. IV, pages 63 and 228.)

The Seven Precepts of the Children of Noah can therefore be viewed as the "starting point" of a Noahide's spiritual life. And a Noahide can continue to grow by studying and fulfilling all those mitzvos of the Torah that make one a more ethical and loving person. There is another halachic opinion which is related to our discussion. Rabbi Nissim Gaon, a renowned 11th century sage, writes in his famous introduction to the Talmud that human beings in every generation have an obligation to perform any precept which is suggested by "reason" and "the understanding of the heart." If the prohibition against "loshon hara" can be understood by reason and/or the understanding of the heart, then it may be that Gentiles are already obligated in these laws, according to Rabbi Nissim Gaon. This is a matter that needs to be decided by authorities on Torah law.

To summarize: According to the above sources, it may be that Noahides are obligated in part or all of the Torah's laws of ethical speech, and one should consult a rabbi who is familiar with these laws for a decision. And it is highly commendable for Noahides to voluntarily fulfill all the mitzvos of the Torah regarding ethical and loving behavior, including the mitzvos of ethical speech. As Rabbi Hirsch teaches, they will certainly fulfill these mitzvos in the messianic age. For the Torah contains teachings and precepts which enable all the Children of Noah to become ethical, caring, and loving people and thereby fulfill their potential as human beings created in the Divine image. May we therefore merit to experience the age when, "Torah will go forth from Zion and the word of Hashem from Jerusalem.[9]

Rabbi Yeshayahu HaKohen Hollander (Jerusalem Court for Bnei Noah)

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Voluntary. In English there are so many terms for talking badly about another person (Gossip, slander, libel, defamation, vilification). Slander is writing or publishing Libel in print, but English does not differentiate between defamation by true statements and by false statements. In Jewish law we differentiate between: 1. gossip = telling people about what other people said about them [or theirs] and is called rechilus, 2. true tale-bearing [telling bad but true things about people] is called loshon hara, and 3. false tale-bearing: [telling untrue bad things about people] is called motzei shem ra.

For Jews this these offences are considered serious. In many circles there are public lessons given about these offences. In general rechilus, loshon hara, motzei shem ra, are absolutely forbidden, except in a few limited cases. Jewish law details the rules and circumstances in which one may tell about bad acts of someone, for instance: a witness must testify in court. Warning about suspicions is allowed in certain instances. The difference between telling and warning is simple: When you warn you say "Look out, on the basis of these facts, I warn you that this person may do harm! ". Telling is saying: "This person has done X". The statement "This person intends to do the bad X" is ascribing evil to someone, and is Halachically very risky. In most cases it is prohibited. The warning must be something like: "I have personal knowledge [or: see for yourself] that this person is saying [or doing] what people say [or do] when they have bad intentions, as so-and-so have said [or done] in previous situations and then followed the saying with bad actions."

The prohibition is based on Leviticus 19:16, in the context of regulations about relations between people [verses16-18]. In this chapter, the phrase "the congregation of the children of Israel" is used several times. In Exodus 16 and 17 this phrase is used when people were complaining. In Exodus 35 in connection with the bringing of contributions for the Tabernacle; in Leviticus 16 – with respect to atonement; in Numbers 1 with regard to the physical arrangement of the Israelite camp in the wilderness; in chapter 8 – the separation of the Levite tribe from the rest of the children of Israel; in chapters 13 and 14 in connection with the sin of the spies, and those who followed them; in chapter 15 with respect to atonement [according to halachic tradition – for Idolatry]. From the context: verse 3 "and keep my Sabbaths" it seems clear that this is not meant to apply to non-Jews. So it does not appear to be directed to non-Jews. This prohibiton is NOT in the list of sixty-six commandments of Bnei Noah compiled by the contemporary Rabbi A. Lichtenstein.

The fact that verses 16, 17 and 18 uses the words "among thy people", "thy neighbor", "thy brother", "children of thy people" it is clear that Noahides are not subject to these commandments.

However, we see that the Torah views the various types of ill-talk about members of one's community as having a bad result to the community. Thus it seems it would be wise that Noahide communities adapt them – for the benefit of the community.

References

  1. Root and Branch
  2. The Hollow Inheritance
  3. Chabad.org
  4. Rabbaynu Moshe ben Maimon (Rambam / Maimonides) Mishne Torah, Hilchot Dey’ot 7:1-2.
  5. Mesechet Erechim 15b.
  6. Rabbaynu Moshe ben Nachman (Ramban / Nachmanides), Commentary on Sefer Devarim 24:9.
  7. Mesora.org
  8. The Uk Ark
  9. Noahide Nations