This approach is only for Messianist non-Jews being the only Bnai Noach traditionally known to Ashkenazim. Jews guiding this approach have historically distinguished between an early Pandera and a late Pandira and a middle Pantera in the Talmuds and have regarded the one in the middle as a human Rabbi halakhically conceived by regular Jewish parents though they permitted Hassidei Umot HaOlam to see him as an angelic Yanin or Yeshua Sar HaPhanim. The approach has its origin in the School of [[Shimon ben Shetach]] and the Chazal (especially Yochanan ben Zakkai an Akiva) but follows both Talmuds and the Teliya, [[Eleazar Ben Kalir|Eliezer Kallir]] and Pirqoi ben Baboi in accordance with the teachings of Ramban, [[Rashi]], the [[Tosafists]] (such as [[Mahzor Vitri|Simhah ben Samuel of Vitry]] and [[Rabbeinu Tam]], Yechiel of Paris and Moses of Coucy, Judah of Melun, and Samuel ben Solomon of Château-Thierry), the Ashkenzi Hassidim (such as Rabbi [[Judah ben Samuel of Regensburg|Yehuda HeHasid]]), Elijah Baal Shem of Chelm, Rabbeinu Yerucham, the Meiri, the Rema, the Ramdu and Rabbeinu Bahiya, various [[Kabbalists]] (such as [[Nachman of Breslov]]), [[Yakov Yisrael Emden|Jacob Emden]], [[Baruch Fränkel-Teomim]], [[Soloveitchik|Rav Elijah Tsvi Soloveitchik]], [[Judah David Eisenstein]], Samson Raphael Hirsch, Moses Rivkis, Pinchas Lapide and Rabbi [[Harvey Falk]].