In some stories the Sassanian Notzri leader of the Judaizers is depicted as a Nestor of Babylon opposing Pauk Paul in others he is depicted as an Elias of Rome opposing Kefa. In either case he focuses on the fact that the NT Jesus did not abolish the law and in either case he is stoned to death. He was opposed by the Notzrim as a violent man who promoted Circumcision, dealt with poligamy and permitted ablutions with stagnant water. He offered no sign to the women who petitioned him besides Havdalah which they discarded.